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There's lesbian muslims, you know.
I read the first three paragraphs and stopped - again, you are making this personal - it is not......you cannot be subjective when you make it personal - period.
Twitter Time @kdhales
This is not bullying. But I've seen others, that roam on here, bully.
My intent is to learn - it is why I question. but thank you so much for letting me know that others, and maybe you, talk about me off this website. I've always tried to keep away from talking about other members of the OC/VP community - especially when it was not in the open.
ever since I spoke up about OC after it's demise - I was oust from the group, because I wasn't pissed off at OC...like everyone else was...or at least I wasn't expressing it like ya'll.
And seriously, I've been bullied, and others have been bullied out of no where, by long and it - and all for fun. And because I continue to talk with her, and actually ask her questions that are very viable...it's my fault and I"M BULLYING.
If anyone actually cared about talking about problems and wanting to fix them, and evolving and changing... when things and opinions come up - people do question.
I spoke that I wasn't questioning her faith, but was trying to dig deeper into why she had such a huge problem with a Muslim dating site being advertised here. And in light of how much fight we have with the Christian community over our rights and because of our own dealings with people killing and beating us up and raping us, because it wasn't God's way to be homosexual...and those that do that to us here in America are "Christian".
But there is a dislike between religions...and well, since 9/11...a lot of people have very little tolerance of Muslims, especially on our own homeland. Americans are more sensitive to those that seem a threat...or are different.
Many homosexuals would have a problem with any religious dating site being advertised here - especially if they had broke away from mass religion itself. Homosexuals are banned from most religious communities and have to make their own religious communities.
I thought you knew me. I guess I was wrong. I don't bully, but I do seek to learn and understand.
You've been mad at me...and waaay long before this...your beef with me was the OC deal and how they treated Moon and everyone. It's easy to take another side when your mad at the one person.
I didn't think there were sides here. This is a community that works things out - by questioning and discussing.
I'm not a click person anyways...peace.
No you don't....and you do understand what I meant....better yet, so do others. There comes an obvious point when bantering becomes bullying with its intent and purpose.
Happy New Year to you my friend!!
I hope that you enjoy a year filled with good health,
and warm, passionate love!!
Peace in '09
With all due respect, I felt that you would understand the 'intent' of my words....
However, if this will help to clarify it for you : I would welcome a Christian dating service advertising here. I don't believe that there is a Christian mandate, backed by irrational religious zealots, to kill homosexuals simply because of who we love......
Rover, this is about advertising. Nothing more. Please don't read more into this than the original post intended......
This isn't a personal vendetta, but I am asking a question...and doing so politely. We all talk about how much we can grow by dialog - and I don't think that this dialog is any more different than that of one to look deeper with honesty and intelligence.
If you think this is bantering, as in real fighting with hate, you are wrong.
This bantering, if anything, is with the intent of intellectual growth.
but I guess it was ok for long to come up out of know where while I was talking with Ca Medicine woman and just yell "what the fuck ever"...and then poke fun. That was...well, apparently acceptable to you.
but me actually moving on and trying to discourse in dialog, of actual importance in understanding how we relate and feel...and grow from that, and MOVE on from prior discussions - is actually not trying to start something, except for change.
but I see where we stand. thanks.
I'm not criticizing your religion or faith. But there is substance to being offended or more sensitive to other religions - and this is across the board.
I'm not asking you to apologize for being Christian. But I did ask you a question you failed to answer.
"If that ad would have been a single Christian dating service, how would you have felt?"
Yes. I am a Christian, and will never apologize to you for my faith in God. I do believe, and I am faithful to my Lord and Saviour... Jesus Christ.
And no... Christians, in contemporary times, do not condemn a man or woman to death because they are 'perceived' to be, or may in fact be, homosexual.
And... nowhere on this earth in 2009, will a man or woman, be put to death for the simple act of loving an individual of the same sex, except for countries where a strict Muslim doctrine is adhered to, and is the basis for that countries laws.......
So please, Rover.... read what I say. Please try to understand the 'intent' behind the words, before you criticize my Christianity and faith. I do respect an individuals right to be a practicing Muslim, however...... I will never respect any religion, politically oppressive society, or theocracy that believes death should be the penalty for love...... NEVER.
I believe, at this point, I've said all I care to say.
I'm jealous! Got the freezing rain going here - yuk!
Yes our mineral environment suddenly turned into white soft cotton... sort of anesthesis.
crunch... crunch... crunch
I love it too - I "crunched" all the way up my road this morning!!! I think we are going to get more later in the week. Isn't it amazing how the snow affects the noise level...
HELLLLOW STEPH AND LMZ!!
Yes SNOOOOWWW in Paris.
I love it too
1/ Less Noise
2/ More light
3/ Cars driving slower
The best ecologic weather.
Okay, this bantering has gotten ridiculous. Please stop. I don't mind anyone countering each other with their ideals, but this countering has gotten too personal. No where on this site should anyone be making satirical comments to anyone else about their religious beliefs - that is absolutely crossing the line of commenting etiquette. I'm asking you, pleading with you, please don't do this here. This is not the place for personal vendettas - if you have a personal grievance with someone, just stay away from their comments. This precedent does not need to be set - not here - not now - not by us......
Thanks with love,
i woke up to snow too !
Paris and most of all my countryside roads are a mess under snow (hope i can go home tonight !).
first day at work ? 246 messages to read and replied (or forget...)
hope yours is OK
Happy New Year LB! Great post up above.
I think homosexuals are as much disrespected in the Christian community as they are in the Muslim community. Why not write to Google, and give them your opinion? Since, it is their ad generator that gives us the links here.
But just a quick question. If that ad would have been a single Christian dating service, how would you have felt?
I know those who were not Christian, would feel pressured, but being you are a proclaiming Christian, maybe you would not feel so...strained and pulled...and uneasy.
Thanks for your lovely comment on the other thread. I am looking forward to sharing more e-chats with you this year.
Hope your first day back at work is okay - I woke up to snow this morning!
Okay. There's only so much a girl can do for 'the team'..... Now, I don't mind clicking on an add for 2 gay guys looking for some hot lovin', I don't even mind clicking on an ad for a mail order Asian bride.......
However, I clicked on singlemuslim.com....... (they say they are dedicated to introducing single Muslims on line, and have over 200,000 members). I'm just not too sure how I feel about this... on a lesbian web-site.
My intention is not to be insensitive, however....aren't homosexuals just slightly disrespected by the Muslim community in most countries? Aren't we perceived as criminals ? Possibly, victims of public stoning and capital punishment for who we love? Not to mention our, rights as women......
I clicked off as soon as I could.
But, I really don't feel so good about this......
I am respectful of peoples religious freedoms, but.....on a lesbian website, a Muslim heterosexual dating service? That seems pretty odd.
Just a note to, **Ads by Google .......
Hello, is anyone paying attention?
**(Just a thought.... it seems as though it benefits neither Google ad clients, nor VP to display ads that are so diametrically opposed to the website visitors interests)
TO ERIN - Jack Daniel's for the American bourbon - Crown Royal for a sipping whiskey.....poured over a couple of ice cubes to slow melt....
TO ERIN AND TAE - "branch" is a Texas synonym for water.
TO PK - I'm diggin the sauerkraut and pork - love a great sausage with sauerkraut.
I am just a Bigelow's
And everywhere I go
People know how fan I'm baby...
(chorus: "Bigelow's, Bigelow's")
Happy New Year
Silk screened? The last thing I did was a wall hanging in junior high. Anyone have any experience with panties?
*** Objectification Warning ***
For the VP Meowwwwww! PK Fashion Show
Hey Ms. Moon-
Delighted to see that things are going so wonderfully over here. It's a mitzvah indeed.
Happy in the New Year!
to taem below
I guess its not easy to follow, i admire your perseverance.
well i'm sure your pretty good at this game
-Do not follow me, I'M LOST-
Yonks and Dornac, are you familiar with the American term pissing match? Please, when is the next round? I make a great corner person.
This is supposed to be down under LongBeach...
errrrrrrr....under LongBeach's comment I mean...
Oh my goodness...
Tae, might I remind you of the 'objectification warning'.....
Someone may be roving around here that could be terribly offended by your objectifying of Peacekitty.....
One clue: It's not me.
Lovin' the customized panties,
P.S...... Ohhhh Kitty, you should be modeling these. Maybe we could put together a Peacekitty fashion show as a fund raiser for VP.
All in favor say.......Meowwwwwwwww !!
This still needs some work. Please feel free to copy and play. Or you might do better from scratch. I just have basic paint and my art is always primitive.
We just need to understand that playing it offensively does not mean to actually throw hate back. Because in reality, it is only reactions - and it's not offensive, but defensive. Playing offensively is not reacting - but just moving forward.
The gay community needs to have leaders, or I want to really call them roll models, who don't react, but just move forward and keep going about their being. A perfect example of a role model, in our community, of offensive tactics, is Ellen....and kd (whoda thunk?)...and Melissa.
A lady needs some options.
faut qu'j'y aille bise
I have a bad impression that i just shoot my own foot LOL
they recycling it in food, thats why frenchs are so full of shit
We know how to bury our dejections.
When you have too much peoples doing their dejection in a too small land, the country, soon became a big piece of shit, a big sky open toilet! and you want to fart at the top of it?
it's too far stinky, even for pepe
TO THE COMMENT BELOW
Don't call momy like that, YONKS!!
***dornac: pétasse jusqu’au bout***
Erin, there's a lady who insult me and look for BIG BIG BIG trouble. of course, i can give her a lecture but it would not be very noble for a butch, what should i do?
wait a second
2 euros (2,8
tu veux compete en pétasse en plus?
-qu'on pète en pétasse?-
no translation is possible here, sorry, this is just a SLUT story, you know...
***dornac: pétasse jusqu’au bout***
pfff cé pô du français çô
***dornac: pétasse jusqu’au bout**
trans: french? where is FFFrrench heeere?
J'entrave quetchi a ta rémoulade.
"FRENCH are more people than YOU"
so what are we if we'r less peoples, monkey? never heard such arrogant thing, even Americans when they think that, never dare to say it out loud
(a pétasse, pétasse et demi)
What pleasure do you have in calling back, all the time, -yes, people,she does it often- that we are, French (see French as BIG ones) that we , French are smaller than you in this stupid rate of 1/5?
Remember, darling, that we, FRENCH are more people than YOU (only 7 744 530 in Quebec? oh... not even Paris and suburbs...) and PEOPLE is the most important !
ahhh..m just sayin'...
***dornac: pétasse jusqu'au bout***
yea but in france it's1/5 the size of quebec and it got twice the all canadian population.
P.K., REPLYING TO YOU
i vaguely remembered the sauerkraut thing so i went to Top Dog & got a container but ate my hot dog without it. i didn't get into it until january 2. does that count?
Yes welcome Erin! I would make the peace sign in the gay rainbow colors.
"Fight Prime Time. Read a Book"
see, cuz choice is something for ALL THE HUMANS!
I still want to know who the sadist torturing Theon in the dungeon...
This is an excerpt from the code of conduct for a local high school in Texas,...
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