WTF Was This Guy Thinking?

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WTF Was This Guy Thinking?

Who knew, while the gays were happily drinking cocktails and wandering through the East Wing, the President was considering canning his top military commander in Afghanistan?

If you haven't had a chance to read the Rolling Stone article by Michael Hastings, in which Gen. McChrystal and his top aids bash the Obama admin here are choice quotes and excerpts below that got the dude fired:

  • How'd I get screwed into going to this dinner?" demands Gen. Stanley McChrystal. It's a Thursday night in mid-April, and the commander of all U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan is sitting in a four-star suite at the Hôtel Westminster in Paris.... "Who's he going to dinner with?" I ask one of his aides. "Some French minister," the aide tells me. "It's fucking gay."
  • "Are you asking about Vice President Biden?" McChrystal says with a laugh. "Who's that?" "Biden?" suggests a top adviser. "Did you say: Bite Me?"
  • McChrystal thought Obama looked "uncomfortable and intimidated" by the roomful of military brass. Their first one-on-one meeting took place in the Oval Office four months later, after McChrystal got the Afghanistan job, and it didn't go much better. "It was a 10-minute photo op," says an adviser to McChrystal. "Obama clearly didn't know anything about him, who he was. Here's the guy who's going to run his fucking war, but he didn't seem very engaged. The Boss was pretty disappointed."
  • One aide calls Jim Jones, a retired four-star general and veteran of the Cold War, a "clown" who remains "stuck in 1985."
  • At one point on his trip to Paris, McChrystal checks his BlackBerry. "Oh, not another e-mail from Holbrooke," he groans. "I don't even want to open it." He clicks on the message and reads the salutation out loud, then stuffs the BlackBerry back in his pocket, not bothering to conceal his annoyance.
    "Make sure you don't get any of that on your leg," an aide jokes, referring to the e-mail.
  • Hillary was the only person who escaped Team McCrysatl bad mouthing) "Hillary had Stan's back during the strategic review," says an adviser. "She said 'If Stan wants it, give him what he needs."

The whole article is pretty riveting and paints a picture of a complex disciplined bad-ass with a serious attitude problem. Any one remember the movie "the Great Santini" with Robert Duvall, who played a military war hero who was a real jack-ass at home, he psychologically abused his wife and kids... something about the portrayal of McChrystal reminded me of this movie.

Here's Maddow's coverage:

Comments [13]

Rusty's picture

Lara Logan, You Suck

Bazinga — 'Lara Logan, You Suck'  — Excellent smack down on Logan and the rest of the MSM for fucking up the McChrystal story:

"Rolling Stone writer Matt Taibbi unleashed on CBS News Chief Foreign Correspondent Lara Logan in a post titled, 'Lara Logan, You Suck' Monday."

Time to renew my Rolling Stone subscription. Time, Newsweek, US News? Not so much, thanks.

"When you look for the bad in mankind expecting to find it, you surely will." ~ Pollyanna

SMBrown's picture

Sexist crap

Rusty, I really gotta differ with you here, big time--the belittling nature of everything Taibbi said, including the 'you suck' line is totally sexist.  All the boys are piling on Logan, and the glee they're taking in attacking her is more than ideological.  

And, sorry, I don't consider the Rolling Stone article a great piece of journalism.  All it did was report some male dick-wagging--like we didn't know that was part of the game? How on earth does it contribute to a serious discussion of policy over there?  It doesn't.  In its own way it's just as fluff as People Magazine.  



Rusty's picture

dicking around

It's a great piece on male dick wagging that got one of them castrated. The MSM ignored the most important parts of the article which centered on the lack of faith the troops on the ground have in counter insurgency as a winning war strategy. And the belittling nature of the response matched Logan's tone.

edited to add the link to Taibbi's post:

"When you look for the bad in mankind expecting to find it, you surely will." ~ Pollyanna

SMBrown's picture

No way--Logan was forceful,

No way--Logan was forceful, but respectful:

I mean, c'mon, how fucking childish is it to say 'you suck'?  We're dealing with adolescent boys here.

Rusty's picture

You might want to read

You might want to read Taibbi's piece before going any further with your characterization. And Logan as much as called Hastings a hack. I'm looking for the full transcript and/or video.

And in case anyone wants to read the actual Rolling Stone article instead of the "hysterical rantings" of the MSM, here you go:

"When you look for the bad in mankind expecting to find it, you surely will." ~ Pollyanna

SMBrown's picture

Read it all, Rusty, beginning

Read it all, Rusty, beginning with "Lara Logan, come on down! You're the next guest on Hysterical Backstabbing Jealous Hackfest 2010!"

Again, note the sexist use of 'hysterical' and 'backstabbing' because of course all women are Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction.

Rusty's picture

I read it all and my point is

I read it all and my point is that the piece taken as a whole was not out of line. For her part, Logan called Hastings a liar.

And when it comes down to it he is right and she is wrong. The MSM is pissed that an outsider got the story and now they're focusing on the most explosive but least important parts of Hasting's story.

Journalism professors point to Woodward and Bernstein as examples of the profession getting it right. But, in fact it's an example of the MSM screwing up by ignoring a story because they're in bed with the powers that be. It was the paeans on the city desk that got it right. And then they were ridiculed for running with the story.

The Hastings article is just another example of the MSM not doing their job.

"When you look for the bad in mankind expecting to find it, you surely will." ~ Pollyanna

Tex's picture

Excuse me, but...

"male dick-wagging"!    heheheheheheeeeeeee

It's the old switcheroo game - he needs to deflect!

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MacLass_19's picture

Middle East War Games

I don't give a fuck which power hungry, ego maniac, runs our pathetic military killing machine. We need to get the hell out of every country that we have arrogantly invaded, and occupied...  

Too bad that Washington doesn't put as much money, time, and commitment, into solving our own societies problems, such as - poverty, hunger, homeless families, unemployment, civil rights issues, women's equality, safe cities, crime prevention, child abuse, teenage suicide, the loss of jobs to outsourcing, corporations moving their factories out of the country, drug and alcohol addiction, high school dropout rates, etc. etc....

When we're perfect, then maybe we can be held up as an example, to other countries, on how to improve the living conditions for their citizens. Until then, the trillions of dollars wasted on guns, bombs, and the pentagon killing machine, would be better spent improving the quality of American lives vs forcing our values [or lack of], on other countries. 

IMO, it doesn't matter who wears the military suit with the most stars on it. We need to get the fuck out of the Middle East. Period.


minniesota's picture

Loose lips

I think the General forgot the adage, "Loose lips sink ships." Or sink your military command.

Still searching for the right brainy quote.

Tex's picture

Obama can boot 'em one after another

if that is what it takes - Lincoln booted six before Grant got the job done, and Truman took the flack and booted the popular pompous ass MacArthur. Sometimes, it seems, generals forget how to work within the 'system' to get the job done. You can disagree with McChrystal or agree with him, but if there's one thing for sure...if you talk 'smack' about your Commander-in-Chief you're gonna get your tail in a crack!

I've gotta go read this interview - seems there's a lot of sexual innuendos being thrown out the reporter cute? Is the general trying to impress much? Gotta appear to be the 'top' dog?

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Rusty's picture

Rolling Stone

Sadly, Rolling Stone has been doing some of the best of the hard political reporting for awhile. They had the most hard-hitting profile of Grumpy McSane and also did a great job covering the stolen 2004 election.

"When you look for the bad in mankind expecting to find it, you surely will." ~ Pollyanna

SMBrown's picture

Fire 'em all

....a complex disciplined bad-ass with a serious attitude problem.

Sounds like most of the dudes that run Rolling Stone as well.  Can we fire them too?  I'm so sick of the adolescent bad-assness that leads to articles like this--no wonder we're still stuck in two wars.