Tanks of Liquid Nitrogen on NYC Curbs= Hazard?

In the age of road rage and major law suits, the last thing you would think a seemingly smart company like Verizon would do is line up large tanks of liquid nitrogen along the curb in New York City. But alas, stupidity prevails. These big ass tanks are apparently used to dry out underground cables (which will sometimes leak, etc) by pressurizing them. And here’s some corporate double-speak for you too: the warning labels on the tanks list horrors such as “rapid suffocation" and "severe frostbite,” but when Verizon finally responded to concerns about the tanks, they said "if a tank was punctured, nitrogen would dissipate in the air without harming anyone around it, or the environment."



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CA_Medicine_Woman's picture

I would think those

I would think those tempermental steam pipes would be a bigger concern.

BTW, NYC is Code Orange cuz the taxi fumes turned the yellow label orange, lol.

You should try California. Yes, we have smog, but then a 3 day long 70 mph wind just blows it all out to Catalina Island (along with trees, cars, small children, etc.) lol!

CA_Medicine_Woman's picture

;)

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CA_Medicine_Woman's picture

lol, yeah, like a truck stop

lol, yeah, like a truck stop or rest area nowadays.

Actually, the uric acid in urine neutralizes the toxin, which in turn eases the pain and reduces swelling a bit. We had a whole week on disgusting but effective field treatments when I was in college.

You would be amazed, and grossed out, by the things we're expected to do if we have to.

CA_Medicine_Woman's picture

Occupational hazard,

Occupational hazard, especially since I have to know a lot about HazMat and the various containers it is shipped in. That and many semesters of chemistry.

CA_Medicine_Woman's picture

Oh that is just toooo funny,

Oh that is just toooo funny, lol!

Just so happens, that is one of the major uses for nitrogen today.

But you have to love Google for putting that ad here, lol.

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LongBeachJellyfishLover's picture

Good advice Tae , I think.

Good advice Tae , I think. Shock

The only problem is, I'll be stung by the jellyfish and then I'll have a urine soaked slime ball stuck to me.... how, does it help ??

Smelling like slimy urine,

LBJellyfishLover
xxoo

Xanadu's picture

Wow CA - your a wealth of

Wow CA - your a wealth of knowledge on the tanks!

Not2Taem's picture

Who the hell knew brainy

Who the hell knew brainy could be so beautiful?
Thanks for the info.

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Not2Taem's picture

Owweee! I've only been stung

Owweee! I've only been stung by a jelly fish once, in a much more innocuous area. Of course, they do say you should pee on it, and that should be easy.

:oops:

minniesota's picture

Has anyone else besides me

Has anyone else besides me noticed that the google ad on top of the page is now: www.sementanks.com?

Still searching for the right brainy quote.

CA_Medicine_Woman's picture

Nitrogen comprises 78% of the

Nitrogen comprises 78% of the earth's atmosphere. It is an inert gas (largely unreactive). It is used in a wide variety of industrial applications because it is one of the safest gasses to work with. It is also used in the production of various kinds of fertilizers, and in larger refrigeration systems.

The tank itself should have a green diamond-shaped label on it, with a graphic of a tank and a number "2" on it. It likely has an additional green label with the word "NITROGEN" in white letters. The tank is designed in such a way as to resist damage and puncture during transport and handling. That particular design (pictured) is one of the safest designs. It can be struck by a vehicle and maintain its integrity, unless something restricts the ability of the container to fall or otherwise absorb the impact (such as tying it down to a fixed and anchored object).

Hazards associated largely involve suffocation or freezing of body tissues. The former requires that the gas be released into a small enough enclosed area with poor or no ventilation, which would displace the oxygen in the air upwards and reduce lower elevation oxygen concentrations as a result. The latter requires direct physical contact with the visible portion of the gas for a specific amount of time, or any contact with liquid nitrogen.

Several years ago, I responded to an accident scene in which a semi-tanker rolled over into the median. It had a full load of liquid nitrogen, and one of the valves had broken in the accident. We needed to get the rig upright and off the roadway, but couldn't because the cargo made it too heavy to lift. Rather than wait a day for it to become light enough, we just opened the remaining release valves. The only result from doing that was the grass in the median grew much faster in the immediate area. We didn't require any special equipment beyond gloves (to protect our hands from contact with the resulting gas).

Now, if this were an oxidizing or flammable gas, or a semi loaded with magnesium powder flipped onto it, broke the valve, and dumped its cargo at the same time right onto the gas stream, yeah, that could be a problem. Beyond that...?

CA_Medicine_Woman's picture

Wow, amazing what Hollywood

Wow, amazing what Hollywood can do with an inert gas!

No, nitrogen simply doesn't work the way Hollywood claims.

If someone were to screw with one of the tanks, they would likely get a huge case of frostbite and hypothermia before they got very far. I suppose they could whack at the valve and regulator and turn it into an extremely short range missile, but once again they would be injured in the process.

It would also take a 50 caliber or larger high powered round to put a hole in one of those, and so far as I know not many people in NYC have those outside of the military or law enforcement. Even then, it would have to be a very well placed shot.

And no, the Iceman in Batman to the contrary, you can't just grab the hose and aim it at someone.

The reason the tank is not tied down is likely because it would be a waste of time. If someone can pick that up and walk off with it, tie-downs wouldn't be much of a challenge to them. Generally, that type of tank is only tied down during transport.

LongBeachDogLover's picture

I'm just not a city

I'm just not a city girl........ just one more good reason to fly into NYC for a musical, then get the hell out !! Besides, I think I'm allergic to concrete...

The biggest worry I have at the beach is.... getting a slimy jellyfish wedged in my thong when I'm surfing. It may sound trite... but, it can be very painful ..... Laughing out loud

Well, life at the beach is a dangerous journey, but I do enjoy danger....... yeah, that's right - I live on the edge.

Ridin' the big one at County Line,

LBDL
xxoo

Not2Taem's picture

What about the possibility of

What about the possibility of people just messing with them on purpose? What happens if someone shoots a hole in one while a bunch of folks are gathered around the street corner? What about little kids? They don't even look like they're tied down.

On the other hand, if someone is after you, can you run to a tank and turn the hose on your attacker?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSyDjCVj6so&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyLfLt0CHIY&feature=related

minniesota's picture

In Minnesota, our hazard is

In Minnesota, our hazard is Winter snow and icy roads. Also, close elections. We still don't know if Norm Coleman or Al Franken has won the Senate Seat. As of close of the day Friday, Franken was in the lead by 250 votes. That's unofficial. I predict this will go to court, once the State canvassing board has finished its work.

Still searching for the right brainy quote.

Grace Moon's picture

Yams is worried that a run

Yams is worried that a run away truck or cab may slam into one of them.

maybe that's why NYC is always in code orange.

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Kelly McCartney's picture

Pretty sure that was on an

Pretty sure that was on an episode of "CSI: New York" where a woman's head got knocked into the nozzle of a tank and it froze her insides.

Be careful out there, people!

Won't you be my neighbor? @theKELword