Gloria Steinem Will Break Your Kneecaps

Charis Books is the oldest, largest, feminist bookstore in the Southeast and one of only 14 independent feminist bookstores left in the U.S. A sad fact but true, and I know this because last night I donned my Take Me Seriously Scary Librarian Feminist glasses, a chartreuse sweater dress that in retrospect may have been a poor choice, and marched my sensibly shod feet to the opening of Charis’ 35th anniversary celebration: “Feminism, Books, & Beyond: Celebrating 35 Years of Charis Community.”

The talk “Founding the Future: A Conversation with Beverly Guy-Sheftall & Gloria Steinem,” was brutal. Well, the talk was brutal, the audience was inspiring. I’m in the South, the Bible Belt, sexism is practically fashionable here. Maybe that’s why the cavernous auditorium was packed. The more it hurts the more you need to do something about it.

Guy-Sheftall, scholar, writer, and editor of many brilliant books including the groundbreaking anthology Words of Fire: An Anthology of African-American Feminist Thought, said the very words that make me cringe. Her students, she said, “Think racism is over because we have a black president. They say feminism is irrelevant, and everything is just fine now.” Then added, “Young women don’t give a shit.”

Why are young women still so turned off by feminism? This is an old question, we’ve knocked it around for years now. And I still don’t know the answer. Why are they afraid to even say the word? Is it not sexy? Are they afraid no one will want to fuck them? Somewhere in my mind, in a way I don’t really want to admit, I think that’s what it is. We’ve taught young women that their most valuable asset is their sexual availability. And if being a feminist means you have to stop and think about whether or not you really want to be in the next Girls Gone Wild video, then maybe it’s too much work. But I think it takes more work to keep the blinders on. Steinem has it right. She said, “The only thing harder than being a feminist is not being one.”

Is this what a feminist looks like?

Maybe we just need to shake up the word, add some nuance. We’re all just bogged down in stereotypes: feminists are humorless, they’re sexless. But I call myself  feminist and I’ve written some books with titles so post-post-feminist you’d think they were penned by frat boys. I don’t see any reason those things don’t go together.

Guy-Sheftall said she believes she’s not seen as a leader in the Women’s Movement because she’s an African American woman, and the movement is still seen as a straight, white woman’s game. Steinem had the best answer to that when she said to Guy-Sheftall, “Tell me who says you aren’t a leader in the Women’s Movement and I’ll break their kneecaps.”  It was such a badass comment I teared up.

I think Guy-Sheftall was right when she said the only way to create change is to tear everything down and rebuild it the way it should have been built in the first place.  That’s my most constant fantasy. I live to knock down the man and pry the boot off the neck of women ignoring their own oppression in order to survive from day to day. I can’t understand why any woman anywhere doesn’t feel the exact same way. On top of that I can’t imagine why an entire generation of women don’t get hot at the very idea. Tell me I’m not sexy, and I’ll have Steinem break your kneecaps.

Comments [107]

minniesota's picture

I found this quote:

"I have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is; I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments that differentiate me from a doormat." - Rebecca West, 1913.

Civility is not a sign of weakness.

Not2Taem's picture

How true!

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Lake's picture

This has been...

one of the most enjoyable blogs and comments I've read in a long...long time!!!!

 

Thank you Ms. Cage  Wink

Lake

peacekitty's picture

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Robin Rigby's picture

Having had the honor to shake

Having had the honor to shake Gloria Steinem's hand and thank her for all she's done for women I can say the woman is so thin (and dare I say, frail) that I don't think she could kneecap anyone but I love that she said it.  I also had no idea she was so funny before that night.  She has an awesome sense of humor and made everyone in that room who wasn't already in love with her fall head over heels. 

There was a woman near me who had brought her granddaughter because her granddaughter didn't know who Steinem was.  (And she was in a women's study program!)  That young woman was definitely inspired and ready to go back and tell her whole department about Steinem.  What a great evening.  

Gloria! G-L-O-R-I-A!  

Sorry, had to have my Patti Smith moment.

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Diana Cage's picture

good in bed

oh yeah, here's a femininst who knows exactly what she wants and explicitly lists all of them in her blog. This is a great, mind opening, hot read:

http://gretachristina.typepad.com/greta_christinas_weblog/2009/11/25-thi...

Rusty's picture

Mythbusters

She had me at Adam Savage and "Mythbusters."

"When you look for the bad in mankind expecting to find it, you surely will." ~ Pollyanna

Not2Taem's picture

Dang!

Not the thing to read right before you scurry off to work.

Thanks for spicing things up Cage. Now if the rest of the day will just go so well.  Smile

Steph's picture

Tae - off topic but just to

Tae - off topic but just to let you know I am getting the swine flu jab in 2 weeks so the vaccine must be coming out of the labs!  So, get onto your quack and find out when it's coming to your hood. Smile

Not2Taem's picture

Thanks for the heads up, Steph

I just called and they say nothing yet, but I'll check with our district office tomorrow and see if there is an update on the timeline. Don't forget to hydrate well and take some acetaminaphin before you get stuck. Smile

yonks's picture

BTW very nice picture

BTW

very nice picture

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yonks's picture

I don't know if feminists are

I don't know if feminists are good in bed or not but i really have a hard time to understand how can somebody could love womans and not be feminist.

-Do not follow me, I'M LOST-

camomileroses's picture

this may be a dumb blonde

this may be a dumb blonde kinda question, but what is feminism, anyway?   reading all this stuff makes me think that i caught it after  i went on a date with this one girl who was really super great kisser cuz now everybody says i'm a really good kisser too!  

"there will never be a technology more advanced than the human mind - fully engaged in the divine process of being. technology is a tool not a destination." me.

yonks's picture

Hello

Where were you? You vanish after mid night like Cinderella and forgot to leave a crystal shoe. Wink

Its a difficult question, what's equality anyway? should it be that woman's attribute are equally valuable than the men's one or that they can do exactly what's men do?

 

-Do not follow me, I'M LOST-

camomileroses's picture

my evil stepmother tore a ligament in my left thumb!

oh my stars, skunky, i just looked at my calendar.  i'm so sorry.  i think a wicked witch slipped me a poison apple (wrong fairy tale?) and then in my poisoned stupor my wicked stepmother tripped me as i staggered to the castle in my glass slippers to meet you causing me to tear a ligament in my left dominant thumb which caused me to have to have surgery which then caused me to be in a full cast for several weeks, learning how to write and eat with my right hand.  i just didn't have it in me to hunt and peck.

but lover, i dreamed we were suspended in a timeless romantic rendez vous the whole time.  good thing i can dream right handed!  

i'm just so glad you still remember me.  i'll be heartbroken if i caused you any pain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ5wii_CCFk

so, my charming prince skunky (a feminist can be a prince, y'know) i know you can't stop my thumb from throbbing, but i'm pretty sure you can stop this throbbing in my lips if you'll just...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GTAUwycyEk

Wink

"there will never be a technology more advanced than the human mind - fully engaged in the divine process of being. technology is a tool not a destination." me.

Robin Rigby's picture

Good question. My response

Good question. My response is- Both.

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yonks's picture

I guess freedom is calculated

I guess freedom is calculated by the choices we have, the more choices, the more freedoms. So a feminist should fight and protect a woman, even if they chose an other part than her.

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Not2Taem's picture

LOL

Long time, no laugh. Nice to have you around.  Smile

peacekitty's picture

HI!  It's erally not a dumb

HI!  It's really not a dumb question.  Like I said, it's defined in the dictionary very simply as "the belief that both sexes are socially and politically equal", but obviously it means different things to different people.

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SMBrown's picture

Bingo, Pepe!

Bingo, Pepe!

Not2Taem's picture

Kind of seems counter intuitive to me, too.

But I have met them. From self-identified butches and aggressive who espouse tradition, to femmes who actually have been convinced that they do not deserve the same things men do. It floors me everytime I encounter it, which fortunately, has been rare.

Rusty's picture

Criteria

Women I don't want in my bed.

- non-feminists

- non-lesbians who sleep with women

- Republicans

"When you look for the bad in mankind expecting to find it, you surely will." ~ Pollyanna

SMBrown's picture

Still feisty

Glad to see Gloria hasn't lost her feist after all these years.

I actually have the same birthday as her, and I consider it an honor--and a challenge!

minniesota's picture

Why the youngsters shy away from "feminist"

Last week I was listening to a program on Minnesota Public Radio (as I do every day) and the subject of young women's attitude's about feminism arose. There was a young woman in the audience from the University of Minnesota, who said that while she believes that women should be equal with men, she does not call herself a feminist.

Clearly there is a disconnect.

There was discussion of why this is:

1. Young women now grow up believing that they CAN do anything they want and there will be no barriers (this despite the recent news we still make only 70 cents to every dollar a male makes).

My comments: This is good news and bad news. It means we did our job to let girls know they are equal. We haven't done a good job in letting them know that barriers still exist.

2. The word "feminist" conjurs up "women in bad shoes." Seriously, people on the MPR program said this. More than once.

My comment: We here know what "women in bad shoes" implies, don't we?

I've had my own problems with the feminist movement in the United States over the years (too white, too middle-class, too lesbophobic) so I don't typically use that word to describe myself anymore. But I do have my blinders off.

Civility is not a sign of weakness.

yonks's picture

"(too white, too

"(too white, too middle-class, too lesbophobic)"

Really?

I ask because lots of straigth woman don't want to be identified as feminists because they don't whant peoples think they'r lesbian

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minniesota's picture

A bit of history

The feminist movement in the earlier days allowed the lesbians to do all the work, while simultaneously wanting to distance itself from being known as a movement that harbored lesbians. It was a quandry.

In my own experience with feminists in the 1980s, I had a so-called feminist complain to me about the lesbians in her group. I then had to let her know I was one. Yep, it was a weird and not always wonderful time.

Civility is not a sign of weakness.

SMBrown's picture

Like most young people these

Like most young people these days, women or men, they don't know shit about history and take what they have for granted.

Not2Taem's picture

Show me your shoes!

Living in a city that has a whole parade around showing your shoe, I relish the small victories that sprout from seeds planted in young minds. My thorns keep me alive.

Tiff's picture

I consider myself a feminist

As long as we're actually talking about women who want equal rights. I've known plenty of so-called feminists whose ideas of feminism were more of a role-reversal. I still fail to see how wanting to oppress men the way we're oppressed makes one better than a chauvinist. I like to clarify and refer to myself as an egalitarian feminist. Smile

Rusty's picture

Bueller? Bueller?

Why would any woman NOT call herself a feminist? And why would any lesbian run from the word? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

"When you look for the bad in mankind expecting to find it, you surely will." ~ Pollyanna

SMBrown's picture

Copycat

Rusty, you're doing it again! I make my first comment in two whole days, only to see it echoed in yours!   Wink

Tex's picture

Holy crapola!

I keep trying to look below that locket...nice rims...you are so effin hot!

Diana Cage's picture

Listen, sexpot!

THOSE ARE MY TAKE ME SERIOUSLY FEMINIST GLASSES! Except the leopard print nightie sorta takes away from the whole take me seriously thing doesn't it? I'll never get it right!

Did you get my tweet about skyping with the prof and me if you need to decompress after Maine?

Not2Taem's picture

Sorry to jump Diana

I mean, sorry to jump in, Tex. But what I can see of that nightie definitely makes me want to take you. Seriously! And feminism is where Hot got its name.  Wink

Tex's picture

Statistically speaking...

those are effin glasses. If u get it more 'right' the Prof will pass before her time.

Didn't get the skype tweet - we must hook up - on the road at the moment - will be home late tonight - tomorrow

Tiff's picture

Am I the only one who thinks of this?

Not2Taem's picture

Well I didn't

but now...

Diana Cage's picture

Wait a minute there...

For the record: I'm in a committed relationship, and to quote Lil Wayne... Call me Mr. Flintstone, I can make your bed rock.

Diana Cage's picture

oops

 that was meant as a reply to PK!

peacekitty's picture

That just made me tingle a

That just made me tingle a little.  Wink

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Diana Cage's picture

!

mission accomplished!

Rusty's picture

no answer

I heard an asshat (male) say that the Girls Gone Wild videos are proof that we don't need feminism any more because women are "so comfortable with their bodies."

I don't understand the refusal to own "feminist." Even my Pentacostal daughter calls herself a feminist.

"When you look for the bad in mankind expecting to find it, you surely will." ~ Pollyanna

Julia Watson's picture

Talk third wavey to me, baby.

Talk third wavey to me, baby.

peacekitty's picture

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Grace Moon's picture

even though

statistics show feminists are better in bed.

tweet tweet @gracemoon

Not2Taem's picture

Gracie, Gracie, Gracie

Did you do field work just so you could report back to us? You are such a fearless leader.  Wink

yonks's picture

Oh you'r preaching for your

Oh you'r preaching for your own church.

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MacLass_19's picture

Really...

Generally, the feminists I've been with - totally suck in bed.

So, I suppose it may depend on who's keeping the statistics.

Smile

Not2Taem's picture

Nothing like a good suck

to make my day.  Wink

Diana Cage's picture

!

Ha. Oh, MacLass, you are such a dude!