Eileen Myles & JD Samson Talk Art, Relationships, and NYC

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Eileen Myles & JD Samson Talk Art, Relationships, and NYC

Recaps Magazine posted an extraordinary conversation between Eileen Myles and JD Samson that took place on 15 August, the day before the Free Pussy Riot event in NYC. 

Eileen Myles on NYC:

"My relationship to the city is a little fractured at the moment because I am planning on being in and out of for a period of time. A friend of mine is staying at the apartment, I am just back so we could have this conversation.... I have to say one of my favorite things is the subway. I love the New York City subway. It’s this masterful work of art and collision of all these lives. And you know it’s a certain class, not everyone rides the subway. It’s this beautiful sculpture that is moving through a lot of the classes that are in New York and absolutely not some of the classes. I feel very alive when I am there. It actually makes me want to write a lot.

I think New York is weirdly hot and continues to be. It’s like a beautiful mess."

...and on getting mistaken for her girlfriend's mother:

"I have a girlfriend who is much younger than me and I get referred to as her mother all the time. We went to the hospital the other day and it was a fucking nightmare. Every health professional that came into the room said, “and so this is mom.” So I realized the politics of mom in a way I never had before because she wasn’t a person. It was just ‘this is mom here.’ I wasn’t being talked to. What do I do with that? I can’t fight it every time it happens, I don’t want to fight it. It’s kind of like a Buddhist thing: how to know what my gender is for me and in my relationship and in my community and not worry about what the world thinks."

JD on gender fluidity through the "generations":

"my girlfriend is only six years younger, which I don’t think of as a big age difference but it is a difference generationally in terms of gender. She thinks much more fluidly about gender expression than I do. I am clearly interested in a fluid gender spectrum and that’s what I am working towards in the community but I am definitely much harder on myself. She is like ‘why do you care if you can see your boobs?’ Which has to do with passing but she is much more comfortable with my gender identity than I am in some ways. And it’s only a six-year age difference."

Read the entire transcript of the video interview HERE.